I'm truly waiting for some reviews to come out. I'm really interested in how well 3rd party controllers work due to how expensive the 1st party controllers are. I'm hoping that they are all universally compatible, so that when I upgrade my android tv in a few years, I don't have to upgrade my non-worn out controllers.

I also am curious if the remotes will be compatible with each other. I like the idea of being able to use a simple remote sitting on the coffee table instead of having to use my phone (nice when you have guests over). If I can't hook up a dedicated remote to the Razer, then I won't be getting one.

Also, I plan to get 4 remotes for party games when I have friends over. If I can't get 3rd party remotes, then the nvidia is actually cheaper than the Razer with its $80 remotes.

• Razer $100

• Razer + 1 controller $150

• 1 controller $80

• Razer + 4 controllers $390

• Shield + 1 controller $200

• 1 controller $60

• Shield + 4 controllers $380

i preordered, it ships tomorrow, i'll write something up real quick when i get it.

Does anyone have their hands on this thing yet? What brave soul can tell us wether or not it's worth biting?

Hopefully we start to see some reviews pretty soon,then i will make my mind up

I'm holding out. I'm not much of a gamer, but I just want a decent Android TV device. The Forge TV would have been fine but no remote is a killer for me, that is one of the main reasons I want Android TV.

Pre-ordered mine the first day and got an email this morning saying it's back ordered. Not exactly impressed to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgndbxm6cSU

here's an un-boxing by a youtuber

it now says on the Razer site "Available for Pre-order. Ships by 12th May 2015" http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-forge-tv-bundle

Seems like people on the Razer forum say there is no Netflix.

https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/no-netflix-on-forge-tv.5538/