After Two Days, Still Trying to Sort Out Where HDHomerun Fits In

by dave1253

Can't wait to make this upgrade, but the options are quite confusing.

I'm currently using a Sony NSZ-GS7 Google TV in my Home Theater setup and am getting disgusted with the cable (cloud based) DVR (and the outrageous prices). I don't have a 4K tv and am not planning on getting one soon. My cable modem and router (TP Link Archer C7) are in the adjacent room and must stay there.

I want to watch live the occasional news broadcast and sports on the local networks (no OTA option for me here). Most tv I watch is recorded on the DVR. All channels are digital and can't be watched using a digital tv (used to be able to watch the networks in HD on my kitchen tv without a cable box - no longer).

It looks like the Hulu subscription would replace most of the DVR functions, except for shows we watch on HBO and Showtime (which both have streaming options now without needing to subscribe to the cable tv version).

I would like a DVR to record sports and pause and rewind live tv, so I can get away with basic tv from the cable company. (I would like the occasional golf channel or epsn - is there a streaming option for this?)

AndroidTV would give me Hulu, and HDHomerun Prime would be able to replace my cable box with a cable card, and HDHomerun DVR would add DVR capabilities, but that's where this gets confusing.

Is there a diagram that shows a typical setup?

Does HDHomerun Prime and DVR go in the room with the router?

Does HDHomerun DVR pause live tv?

What is needed on the tv side to receive the signal?

Would my 5Ghz wifi be sufficient on my local network?

Would the NVIDIA Shield or NVIDIA Shield Pro be better for my needs?

Looking forward to getting rid of this awful cable dvr and all those cable boxes.

thenj0esaid

The hdhomerun dvr software has to run on somewhere such as a nas then it connects directly to your hdhomerun and your Android TV connects to it. Unfortunately I didn't pledge soon enough so I can't get the hdhomerun dvr software for my qnap nas until it is released to everyone. I am really looking forward to this as I cannot switch from my current setup with Windows Media center because the wife demands recording. Also wmc discontinued Netflix on September 15 so now I am forced to use 2 devices. HURRY UP SILICONDUST!!!!!!

dave1253

For those people with millions of questions about HDHomerun Prime, the FAQs on Amazon answer just about every single question:

http://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-Compatible-Streaming-HDHR3-CC/dp/B004HKIB6E/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1443968624&sr=8-1&keywords=hdhomerun+dvr#Ask

Hope this helps.

Bigsam411

Does HDHomerun Prime and DVR go in the room with the router?

HDHomerun will plug into the router via ethernet and to the cable line via coax cable.

Does HDHomerun DVR pause live tv?

It will be able to pause live TV however it is still not feature complete yet and thus does not yet support that.

What is needed on the tv side to receive the signal?

HDHomerun and the DVR will support playback on Android, Kodi media player, Windows, Mac, and eventually iOS and Plex. I use it with my Nexus Player, Nvidia Shield TV, and Windows PC.

Would my 5Ghz wifi be sufficient on my local network?

I used it on 5GHZ with the Nexus Player and it seemed okay. As long as its wireless AC that is. I did have issues when too far from the router it would revert to 2.4GHZ and I got a bit of choppiness.

Would the NVIDIA Shield or NVIDIA Shield Pro be better for my needs?

For Live TV it should not matter, the DVR will record to whatever machine you install on (Windows, Mac, or Linux) and just stream to the Shield.

alphazero0

The HDHomerun DVR will hopefully be a worthwhile investment in the future, but if you have any interest in DRM channels, it is not really worth it. The only program that can access it is Kodi (The DVR, not the DRM channels). See the link below, there are many who are upset that the release candidate may be another 8 weeks out, when it was estimated to be released in Sept. See link below. https://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=96

There is an app for Android, HDHomerun View, that will let you play DRM content, but it cannot access the DVR at this time. The good news is the app is quite inexpensive ($0.99) and the Nexus players are down to $50 at Wal-Mart so trying out the app and the Ecossytem has a smaller cost. Also, the Nexus Player should be getting Android 6.0 tomorrow and that will smooth out the playback from the HDHomerun as the 5.x builds did not support the MPEG2 fully.

You could try the WIFI and there have been reports that it may work, but please note that it is highly recommended that you use a wired connection which the Nexus Player will need a OTG to Ethernet adapter.

Pausing and rewinding do not fully (or at all) work on the current builds, this feature will be available in the future... hopefully.

The nice thing about this setup is that the HDHR will just need to be on your network with the NAS and then all connected devices will be able to play back anything connected to the network (again only through Kodi currently) I should note that I have seen better playback from the NAS compared to live tv on WIFI but YMMV.

dave1253

How successful has using something like the ZyXEL 600 Mbps Powerline adapter been in connecting an AndroidTV to the LAN vs. a direct Ethernet connection? Has anyone tried this option?

spiffyboy

I spent hours and hours with this kind of setup...

Here was my plan:

  • Purchase HDHomerun Prime & NVIDIA Shield. Connect them to network.
  • Acquire CableCard form Comcast. Install in HDHomerun Prime
  • Install DVBLink ( http://dvblogic.com/en/dvblink/ ) DVR/PVR server backend on my existing Synology NAS
  • Install Kodi App on NVIDIA Shield. Install DVBLink DVR/PVR frontend addon in Kodi
  • Record cable TV, including DRM protected channels (e.g., HBO, Showtime) on my NAS.
  • Watch recorded TV programs stored on my NAS and watch live TV in Kodi via DVBLink Addon.

Here's what happended:

  • DVBLink backend/frontend is only compatible with HDHomerun Extend & Connect. It can be forced ot work with the Prime, but doing so involves tedious modifications that are easy to break.
  • Other backend/frontends are compatible with the Prime, or with my NAS, but none that I can find are compatible with both. My NAS doesn't natively support HDHomerun boxes (it does natively support other DVB decrypters that would be compatible with backend software). I tried intalling both TVHeadEnd and Synology Video Station on the NAS to serve as the backend (with the intention of using Plex as a frontend to watch recorded TV, and HDHomerun's Android TV app to watch live TV), but since the NAS doesn't natively support the Prime, the backend couldn't pull a channel list or EPG data.
  • I have read that any of the setups I tried will work with the Extend and Connect, but I haven't tried it, because I only own a Prime and am out of money and will for this adventure.
  • In any case, as of now, only some backends/frontends support CableCard DRM protected channels, and then, only on some platforms. As far as I can tell, no combination of HDHomerun Prime, Android TV, and a NAS running a backend will allow playback of live TV (including protected channels) AND recording of cable channels (including protected channels). (see this Kodi Help Page for a handy guide of which Kodi Addons support protected channels on which platforms: http://kodi.wiki/view/PVR_backend )

I guess I'll just wait for Silicon Dust to finish their DVR software (I've been following the forums, and it's very buggy right now). I can still watch live TV, including HBO, through the HDHomerun View app. HBO GO is coming soon, and I can cast XFINITY GO from other devices, so I'm not hurting.

If anyone know how I can get my hardware to work, however, I'd love to hear suggestions.