Let's be real the Gen2 Basic is kinda BS compared to the Gen1 Basic.

Removing the IR sensor is kind of crazy, these are meant to exist in home theater systems and the loss of IR and use of a universal remote is unacceptable. I understand there are new bluetooth/wifi remotes but you've cut out alot of existing systems by doing this. Also while I cant think of much use of additional storage, removing the microsd just seems like a step back. Its not like a phone where you are trying make it as portable or make room for more battery.

I guess you are getting both remote and controller only benefit here. Guess to the used/refurb market I go.

And in general, like another thread said if this were apple ppl would be ripping Nvidias head off. But I guess that the luxury of being in the "luxury" or "enthusiast" market. It still remains the best and most powerful streamer on the market.

Is the difference between HDMI 2.0a and 2.0b software or hardware? Because obviosly Gen1 has been updated from 2.0 to 2.0a via software

Edit: it seems it is software. Hopefully it will arrive also on Gen1

The big feature being added with the gen2 is in the controller.

Unlike the gen1, the gen2 controller is always listening for 'OK Google'. This effectively incorporates Google Home into the product. Buying the new controller or the Spot seems like the best route for existing customers that want this feature.

The new version also includes the remote which was a $50 add-on in the last version.

This also triggers a new series of reviews to capture the new software features that have been added since the first one came out.

Think you could add the original 16GB specs to it?

http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-shield-android-tv-console-specs

Nice work!

Wanting to check my understanding... the new nvidia shield basic (16 GB) does not have an IR receiver? Will it not work with old harmony remotes that use IR? Will it even work with the new harmony remotes that use a hub?
Thanks!

As a gen1 Pro owner my take is that the only reason to get the Gen2 Pro is if you are running Plex Server on it or you require the IR receiver. You can expand the internal storage with a USB3.0 flash drive. The old specs listed a 128GB limit. The new specs mention a specific 128 drive as a recommended model but do not mention a storage limit. Still for $28 on Amazon you can have 144GB storage.

I hope the Gen 1 stuff will get more timely updates then compared to the whole Shield Tablet / K1 stuff.

its a downgrade!

OP: Thanks for doing this chart

2.0b adds support for Dolby Vision.

Thats definitely not correct. Dolby vision only requires HDMI 2.0. But it does require special hardware.

Do the original remotes and controllers have IR blasters in them?

OP, you're awesome. Just asked the mods for this to be stickied or added to the sidebar.

The "See Full Specs" link here indicates that both the Shield and the Shield Pro have Infared receivers and can be expanded with MicroSD. What gives?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/shield-tv/

I need some clarification, is the always on mic exclusive solely to the 2nd gen Controller? AFAIK, there are two (2017) remotes right? They both have IR Blasters; the basic has no headphone jack while the one with the pro does; basic is plastic, pro remote is metal; basic needs batteries, one with pro is rechargeable.

But do they both have the always on mic, or is it solely for the controllers themselves. I have the 2015 Remote and controller and want to have a device for the google assistant update.

Thank you for putting this together!

I wonder if they made a mistake in some of their listings. It would be very strange to bother with an IR blaster but not an IR receiver in the gen 2 basic. In that, once you have one, the cost to add the other is extremely low.

EDIT: Ah, the blaster is in the remote and controller. That makes sense, then.

Just ordered! FYI, no free shipping to Canada.

Maybe this isnt the best place to ask, but if i already have a Mibox3 + steam link and I am madly in love with steam controller, is there any reason to get nVidia shield?

I expect the new pro to be exactly the same pcb as gen1 was, just bundled with the new accessories.
So my guess would be hdmi and all features can come via software. Just hope they do.

Thank you so much! It seems like Gen 1 Basic beats out Gen 2 Basic.

Are there more than one generation of X1 processor?

/u/mr_yuk you got stickied!

Did Nvidia put some kind of metal plate inside the Gen 1/16Gb to make up for the weight difference between it and the Gen 1/Pro's 500Gb HDD? Because as the chart sits now, you've got the weight for both at "23oz".

dumb question perhaps, but how does the IR blaster support work or how is it expected to work? There doesn't look to be any volume control buttons on the remote.

Fantastic post!!! Exactly what I wanted to see. Thank!!!

Wait wth. If someone can get the Gen1 cheap on sale somewhere or even cheaper second hand, why wouldn't you just do that instead of getting the "new" one ? Their identical

So I can get all of the features of Gen 2 by adding the Gen 2 controller to my Gen 1? Google Assistant, The Spot addon, etc?

If the new remote and controller both have IR blasters, how do they work on the new 16gb Shield TV if it doesn't have an IR receiver??

Do you need spot unit for Google Assistant capabilities on TV?

Can you update the OP to reflect that the new remote doesn't have private listening?

Does anyone know how the Gen 2 Basic now sideloads content (given the micro-USB port is no longer there)

The specs for new device are wrong. Where did you get them?

Can I install apps/games to an external HDD through the USB 3.0 port?

just got my pro, remote is rechargeable and has a headphone jack /u/mr_yuk

As someone on a budget, does anyone know where I could get a Gen1 Basic for cheap? I'm open to buy used.

I know this is an old post, but the Gen 2 Pro only includes an IR blaster in the Controller. It does not have one in the remote.

And to follow up my post about how bad the remote is, the Gen2 remote batteries are literally dead after 3 days.

I'm not sure what the heck is going on here, but this is really absurd.

Can the OP add network specification (1000mbit/100mbit) and Wireless Chipset used and if it's MIMO 2x2 3x3 etc etc.

Seems like since they reduced the features of the Gen 2 Basic so much the least they could have done is lowered the price. Another fine example of corporate greed rears it's ugly head. Bet this will not be the hot seller like the Gen 1 was and prices will soon drop like a rock.

I'm all in if there is confirmed support for Dolby vision. Otherwise, I'll stick it out with my gen 1 basic