Android TV Remote - Seeking Perfection for Shield/Nexus

by Greylights888

Many are close, yet the perfect AndroidTV remote control remains elusive.

My main system is a Shield TV 2015, and my spare room is a Nexus player for guests. Each box is a comprehensive and self-contained media centre, with Live channels+HD Homerun, a nice selection of retro games, full subs to amazon prime/netflix/crunchyroll/play music etc, and a nicely set up version of kodi. I have no other devices like a cable box or console, it's only the AndroidTV devices and TVs that need to be dealt with.

What I want is for both devices to be easy for anyone to use, with only a single remote needed for all important functions.

I just cannot get a remote solution I am happy with. I find this strange, as the following criteria for perfection are surely shared by many others:

  1. Minimal Design . The quantity of buttons on the shield remote and nexus remote is (almost) sufficient. Forward/backward/play buttons like on the Fire TV remotes is also fine. I do not need numbers, coloured buttons, DEFINITELY not an air mouse, etc. Third party remotes generally have a ton of this stuff, aimed at cheap generic android boxes. Clutter makes the remote ugly, and most importantly confusing to someone unfamiliar with the system. Harmony remotes, although very nice, are not perfect for this reason.

  2. Voice Control . This is hugely problematic - essentially, only the nexus/fire/shield/mii remotes can use voice. This more than anything else limits the controls I can use. I tried a third party remote with voice, but it doesn't really work well. Could the forthcoming Spot contribute to overcoming this one?

  3. Infra Red Learning for TV Power . And possibly volume also. Everyone needs to turn their TV on and off! Everyone needs to adjust volume! CEC is an absolute PITA. I don't mind controlling volume through android, but IR learning for power and volume would solve nearly everyone's problem with multiple remotes at a stroke. Even a lot of the cheap android boxes' remotes have a few IR learning keys for this. The Shield 2017 implementation appears confusing and unintuitive (though I haven't used it myself).

  4. Volume control ideally with a mute. Again, IR or through the android OS is fine. The slider on the shield is a bad design, + and - much more sensible.

That's it. Minimal Android style buttons, IR power, volume control and voice. With these things, anyone can pick up the single remote and control everything necessary with no explanation, 100%.

A quick summary of the flaws in current options:

  • Shield remote: Sub-optimal IR learning, sub-optimal volume
  • Fire TV remote: No IR learning, no volume
  • Nexus remote: No IR learning, no volume
  • Mii box remote: No IR learning
  • Generic third party/Harmony: Way too many buttons, no voice

A Sideclick remote solves the Nexus and Fire remote problems: https://www.sideclickremotes.com/

But they are very ugly, with a couple of unnecessary buttons and also uncomfortable to hold. Nevertheless, this is my choice for the spare room currently. My main room uses two remotes for the Shield and TV.

If anyone could point out a perfect remote I have overlooked I'd be forever indebted, but I think I have checked out everything.

Does anyone agree with me on this list? Is it really that esoteric?!

tl;dr - It's obvious what an ideal remote needs but it still doesn't exist.

LawHero4L

I just sucked it up and got Sideclicks. I use the old Fire Stick remotes with my Shields. I agree that it's bulky and ugly, but there really isn't a better option. I tried to get a Mi Box remote to pair with my Shield so I could take advantage of the CEC power and volume buttons - I really do like the Mi Box remote - but couldn't get it to pair.

sageDieu

Would love to see if there's something that checks all their boxes. I have a cheapo Chinese remote from Amazon for like $12, beemax I think is the brand. It works great but has like 20 buttons I never touch. Its back button also doesn't work with Android, so I have to turn it over and press the escape key to go back.

3rob3

In the exact same boat, with the same devices, and haven't found the solution. In fact this sounds like a great business opportunity. I am using the Shield remote and CEC for tv power on/off and sound bar volume control. Had Sideclick in bedroom for Nexus player and it is just ok. Bulky, weak IR, and the Nexus remote is too clicky. I'm currently using an Amazon Android remote in there and it is much better, but doesn't have voice.

jschipmann

So far CEC control using the remote that came with my Samsung TV has filled in nicely. It is a simple remote that reminds me of the fire TV remote but obviously with in put, power and volume controls for the tv. But my model didn't have the mic in the remote for voice control. However I am looking for the same as you for another room that has a sound bar, and then for my main home theater setup. Let me know if you find anything, I continue to look all the time.

prahjister

C120. Everything but voice search and backlight. Just about perfect. You can get around voice with a USB microphone or usb webcam with a microphone

Greylights888

Well its good to see I'm not insane for wanting this :)

Hopefully Nvidia will recognise what is needed with the next iteration of the Shield, but that's likely a couple of years away.

Ryoka83

I like my Harmony remote, but I am looking for a voice search solution. I have heard that a USB mic might solve my issues but have yet to test it.

speakxj7

Closest you can get is the simplest ir universal remote you can find + a USB flirc + add a USB mic onto the stb (and deal with far listening instead of near listening)

bentripin

I love my setup; but its going to be difficult to replicate.. definitely not off the shelf.

Powermate USB Knob hooked to my Domoticz HA Box, wrote an app that controls my Pioneer AVR w/Domoticz, then another app for controlling the Powermate.. Twisting changes volume, taping mutes, holding it down turns it off, double taping changes back to AndroidTV and optionally turns TV back on (TV is also interfaced w/Domoticz). Then I wrote an AndroidTV app that just sends signals to my home automation server and allows me to change inputs and reconfigure sound system.. the other inputs are just PS3/PS4 so this app dont get used much, household just turns on controller and CEC changes it.. then they double tap to go back to AndroidTV.

The powermate sits on the table between sofas and its always within someone's reach, and never lost..

fervidfly

just a remote that actually functions with the Shield 2017 would be great.