Did NVIDIA do the right thing by holding back Oreo for the Shield TV?

by joeb2880
shadywhere

I agree with NVIDIA's stance here.

Oreo on the Nexus Player was underwhelming. The only thing I don't like about the Shield TV interface is that there are only two rows for apps or games. When you have a lot of games or other apps installed, that means a LOT of horizontal scrolling.

rlaxton

To be honest, I don't see this as a good reason. The recommendations on the home screen now are garbage. Youtubers that are nothing like anything that I follow. Random crap from other apps. I have maybe selected something once from that list.

Does anyone actually find the current layout and behaviour useful? For me it is just a launcher to get to Kodi, Netflix, Amazon, Play Music or YouTube and that is all.

xManevane

Maybe that's why Mi Box is not getting updates as well :D

BillDino

Can someone make a new homescreen launcher for android tv or is there something preventing that?

midnitte

It has plenty of competition..

Where ?

DaveDeluria

A good read IMHO

stoneule

Good for NVIDIA. Honestly the interface for Oreo android Tv is straight garbage anyway.

th3suffering

Problem is, by holding back they are holding back auto color space switching. On a top of the line device, i shouldn't have to monkey around changing settings depending if I want to use HDR or not. If it weren't for other drawbacks Id say screw it and go with an Apple TV 4K at this point. Oreo is ugly as sin, and Id sure love to retain the Nougat interface, but damn do I want the colorspace issue resovled.

Sean_Franchise

This article is spot on with the assertion that Watch Next is a great idea, but worthless without Dev support.

I still think that Oreo looks like the perfect Smart TV interface on paper, but without devs supporting the new home screen's functionality (a channel for my YouTube recommendations is table stakes!), I wholeheartedly agree with Nvidia's decision here.

Hopefully we'll see Android TV's mind/market share increase now that it's being included on lots more TVs in 2018, which will move it up the priority list for developers.

Feature support like this is a bit of a chicken & egg issue though. Even if more TVs are launching with Android TV, if they're not featuring Oreo, what incentive do devs have for supporting it?

In the end, it's the Android TV team's job to get out there and pound pavement with the Netflix's, Hulu's, and Amazon's of the world to get them on board.

serpentxx

they should release oreo with the new launcher and all

and create their own interface launcher that can be enabled in settings and it closely resembles the old AndroidTV launcher

kurmudgeon

I think so, I hate the Oreo homescreen layout on my Nexus Player. I'm thinking about downgrading it back to Nougat.

JoeFCaputo0113

Good, the new interface/homescreen is straight trash and looks cluttered as hell.

Ekos640

Yes. Next question.

xe_om

especially Amazon because the Shield TV has an exclusive and awesome Amazon streaming video app

I'm not a Shield TV owner -- how is the Amazon app different than the one on my Bravia?

ProfitOfRegret

So does Oreo do away with normal opening of Apps and only let you interact with video services though the launcher?

BurtMacklin-FBl

Can't nvidia make their custom launcher? The Oreo launcher does look like a bit of a mess but what we have now isn't that great either.

mesostinky

Definitely. What's the rush? All that huge market support for Android TV....lol.. I'm just waiting for Google to announce the complete abandonment of Android TV. They've put literally no weight behind the product. As far as Google is concerned buy a Chromecast.

There could very easily be no 2018 or 2019 Shield so enjoy it while it lasts.

officialdoughboy

What I don't get is why Google can't add an option to allow the user to pick between the new interface and the old one. At least for a minimum period of time for mitigation purposes. I understand why but when you lay out the logic it seems stubbornness on Google's part. And it also doesn't add up when android was built on being the most customizable interface.

While there are alternate launchers, the problem is getting them to be set as default.

I'm really interested to see what happens this coming year because once Kodi 18 is released I wonder how that changes the landscape. Right now you can use PS Vue in Kodi 17, in Kodi 18 there is support for anything with DRM limitations (Hulu, Netflix, Prime, etc.) What that means is all the minor issues people complain about goes away. Don't like the interface get another skin. Don't like the sub size/font, change it. Kodi gives you the ability to customize a lot of what you see on screen. You can start android apps from the interface. And on top of all that you can auto-boot to it with apps (or use SPMC and it's auto start feature.) It's why I love it.

To me it's the ultimate all in one launcher. Which makes me wonder what is going to happen if all pay services become integrated with Kodi. Will Hulu stop a Kodi add-on developer? What about Netflix? What about Amazon? This will essentially break down the walls between devices (Amazon/Google war anyone?) and possibly hardware. I know some people hate android boxes, but Kodi will run on almost anything and is remote controllable.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens going forward.

speakxj7

yes, yes they did.

groac

HODL

Dinierto

I'm more concerned with the fact that there are so many apps that have not only not been transitioned to Android TV, but are actually harder to use sideloaded now. Particularly CW and CBS.