JBL Link Bar impressions

by jhoff80

I know it's not the most cost effective setup, but I ended up getting one anyway. I had been planning on waiting for reviews, but then looked at the JBL return policy and felt comfortable enough placing an order.

To summarize my comment from a few days ago about why this over a Shield TV and separate speakers, the reason why I was interested is that for my second room, I want as simple a setup as possible. I've got a 5.1 surround system in my living room (and yes, a Shield TV) for when audio (and video) quality is most important. But in this second room, I want it as easy as possible. I previously only used the TV's own speaker with sources directly connected to the TV. But in addition to awful sound quality from that, the TV there is kind of old and glitchy... my sources sometimes confuse the TV's HDMI-CEC and 'fight' for control. So using the soundbar (and Google Assistant) for source switching is perfect.

This TV is old (1080p, no HDR) so I can't answer anything about 4k or HDR.

I've also got a mostly Google-based setup, so the fact that it acts as a Google Home was also a nice-to-have.

But anyway, impressions of the thing.

I obviously haven't had it that long, so I wouldn't say this is an in-depth review or anything.

Sound quality is... okay. It's much better than TV speakers, and it's much better than the Google Home Hub / Nest Hub I've got in that room. It gets bassy enough for my purposes without the sub, but I mean, yes, it's also a soundbar so it's not perfect. I knew what to expect going in, and I'm pleased with the output based on those expectations. It's pretty good. But yes, typically a dedicated 2.1 system will sound better. I will not be getting any additional sub even if I decide to keep the Link Bar.

No USB ports is a slight bummer because it means you're stuck with only about 4GB storage. Which means I probably am not running Kodi (with the Emby for Kodi plugin) like on my Shield due to all the cover caching, but the Emby app itself runs great. It also means no USB game controllers. I was a little concerned at first because the Bluetooth pairing screen only gives two options: Connect remote, and Connect phone for Bluetooth audio. But I chose Connect remote, and my Xbox One (Bluetooth) controller paired perfectly.

Performance of the SoC for Android TV... well it's not as fast as the Nvidia Shield, but again, it's good enough. I've been able to run RetroX NES, SNES, and Genesis emulation with no problems. Not exactly too demanding, but I wouldn't expect it to run Crysis or anything. Additionally, the Steam Link app works great. So performance hasn't been an issue except for one caveat I'll mention below.

HDMI passthrough doesn't seem to add much lag if any. I've been playing Mario Maker 2 on my Switch and not noticed any problems going through this as opposed to directly through the TV.

It doesn't seem to decode DTS formats, but supports Dolby TrueHD fine.

Sideloaded Amazon Prime Video works fine as well. (I used a 4.11 version since some people said newer ones have issues on other devices). Can't wait for it to be freely available for all devices in the Play Store though.

Some of the bigger negatives for me:

  • You can't Chromecast any music, or play any music from within apps, with the screen off. As soon as you tell it to turn off the TV screen, it stops playback. You can play music using Google Assistant using Youtube Music, Spotify, etc. with the screen off, but nothing from the ~~Chromecast/~~Android TV side works that way. And even trying to use Pandora opens the app on the Android TV (screen on) rather than playing music with the screen off.
  • The remote feels kind of cheap, and the directional 'buttons' on it suck. But to be fair, Nvidia's remote is awful too. At least the JBL remote won't change the volume just by breathing on it.
  • Google Assistant performance (what I was alluding to earlier). It's SLOW. My Home Hub will have answered a question sometimes before the Link Bar even realizes I've asked a question.
  • I can't add it to a speaker group in Google Home for whole-home playback.

Google could easily fix the screen off thing and speaker group thing, so I hope that happens eventually.

A few other quirks that aren't really negatives, just weird:

  • Pressing and holding the back button doesn't jump to settings like on the Shield.
  • There's no way I can find to jump between recent apps or to close apps like on the Shield.
  • As far as I can tell, there's no Android Picture-in-Picture support (which I never used). There's also no HDMI/source-based picture-in-picture, which I didn't expect but would have been really cool if they could've done it.
  • If you're playing a video and go back to the homescreen, the video stops. On the Shield the video continues to play in the background.
  • If you're playing music and go back to the homescreen, there aren't any music controls (like on the Shield I believe this would be handled through notifications, but I haven't seen any 'notification drawer' on this at all yet).

UPDATE : As of a day later, I can't reproduce the Chromecast one. As in, I'm now able to cast to the speaker without the screen turning on. Not sure if there was an app update on my phone or the Link Bar but this works like I'd expect now (but only for Chromecast).

allanfarrell

nice review, for the price and the extra 300 for the subwoofer, its a non runner for me.

coryteague

Thanks, your review gives me confidence to pass on this.

wewewi

No USB ports is unreal, especially with only 4 miserable gigs of storage.

Hard pass.

jhoff80

Update: Chromecasting with the screen off is working all of a sudden, using the same apps on my phone that weren't working yesterday. Not sure if it was an app update (to Play Services maybe?) on my phone or app update on the Link Bar but that at least appears to be fixed?

IverseeN

Could you take a picture of the remote, can't seem to find one on JBLs site?

Serialtoon

I was very excited for this unit when it was announced as at the time i had a UHD TV that only had 1(!) port capable of 4K60Hz. So i planned on using this device as a catch all and also possibly replace my soundbar/sub that i bought in 2014. Then my TV died and i had to replace it. Then the bar kept getting pushed so far back that it doesnt even make sense anymore. Thanks for the review OP, you the real MVP.

foreignbuffet

Thanks for the review. I was looking into picking this up soon, but your comment about not being able to add it to my speaker group makes this a pass. Hopefully an update will fix that sometime soon.

IverseeN

Have you ever heard a Sonos Beam? If so, how does it compare?

spano45

You can't add it to a group for music play such as Spotify? That's one of the main reasons I wanted this. Mine arrives Wednesday, if this is the case I may send it right back

omegadown3

I definitely agree with your negatives from my experience with mine thus far, and I'd add one more from my personal experience: HDMI passthrough is simply not working on mine going into a Vizio P502ui-B1E. I used the cable from the box to connect to the ARC HDMI and even bought new cables for my Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4 to connect to the bar. Any time I change to an HDMI output, the TV goes no signal and I have to switch inputs on the TV away and then back to the HDMI the bar is in. I think this is a compatibility issue with my TV, and I'm guessing mine won't be the only one.

gotamd

Nice. Yours seems like a good use case for this device. I hope they fix the Cast bug that you mentioned in your first negative as well as speaker grouping. Not being able to Cast audio to the sound bar without also having the screen on is a pretty big feature gap IMO. The same goes for speaker groups. I can do both of those things with my Sony HT-Z9F soundbar, and I use those features regularly.

gman1023

You should post this review on Amazon or elsewhere. Very informative.

LeOmare

Nice and honest review

anrikaz

Thank you for your review!

BillDino

Thanks for the quick review, I think I am going to pass. My MI Box has been going strong for 3-4+ years 😎

brac20

Not being able to group this with Google Home devices is an issue for me.

quitelagikal

Thank you for the review! Do you have any hue lights? If you could I would like to test something. I use hue stream on my shield tv. I have a theory since the android interface is available on other hdmi inputs, hue stream might capture the screen and change the lights. I know Hue Stream works on android tv, I want to know if the hue stream will screen capture the other inputs too because that would really sell me on it.

flcinusa

Got mine yesterday, so far I'm impressed with it, but I never had a 5/7.1 setup, I was just using tinny TV speakers so the sound has taken a nice bump in quality. Like I can use my voice to turn the TV on and off, though soumetimes when turning on it jumps to the ARC input instead of home or the requested HDMI 1. Sucks I can't add it to home groups yet. All the apps are fast as hell compared to my Roku, so I might end up getting rid of that, just need a Spectrum TV app for Android TV. Good sound and picture quality for PS4, no noticable lags.

Was it worth $400? Probably not, but I think I'll keep it all the same

mpkasp

Nice review, coming from another perspective I tried to get my setup to be optimized to be minimal devices with high functionality and usability.

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Previously I've had 5.1 setups, down to 2.1, and more recently a Bose Solo 5 soundbar (just to bridge the gap while waiting for the link bar)

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To compare sound, the JBL Link bar puts out a lot more power, and a lot more bass than the Solo 5. I actually think it's a much better soundbar (granted it's a lot bigger too...). I've never had an android tv before, and I'm the added functionality, and ability to lose my chromecast.

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Still has some software kinks they need to work out for sure

- I had to swap to a specific HDMI port on my tv to get everything working (see comments below, doesnt work well with my Vizio ARC HDMI input).

- Cant add it to a google home audio group

- Nothing is happening when I try to chromecast to it while the TV is off

- I'm not getting 4k, only 2160p for some reason

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Without the above it's still a great soundbar. I think most, if not all of the above can be solved with software updates, now we just gotta sit, wait and see if JBL decides to fix the kinks.

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edit: chromecasting while the tv is off seems to be working now - it turns on the tv and casts. I guess while I was debugging I accidentally disabled CEC :(

JoinTheBattle

Would be really cool if you could use Google Cast/Google Home speakers as rear surround speakers, similar to a Sonos system. Granted, getting speaker grouping working at all is a much bigger priority.

bor_go

I confirm, Google Assistant really is slow. I mean it is very slow compared to Google mini.